I hate to bother you with the predictable. But I'm too interested, so I have to ask something about your discussion last night. Yes. We spoke about that our reality is much determined by our speaking or speech. It's necessary. You mean by language or speaking? Language, yeah. It's important because otherwise we couldn't compare our reality with another reality. So you cannot compare it to another person.

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Without being able to speak about it. That's not entirely true, I think, but mostly true. When we meet something that doesn't fit into this reality, we are afraid. It also gives us security, this limited reality. So it gives us security, this limited reality. We asked ourselves the question, are there different kinds of reality or are we only looking at one reality in different ways?

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We ask ourselves, are there different realities or do we look at one reality in different manners always? But on this we couldn't find any answer. So then I spoke of myself and my reality was much determined or imprinted by stress. And then I recognized that I'm running around with a list in my head what I have to fulfill. You're not the only one. Now this is a little bit better.

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Okay. Yeah. I was in Paul's group and I just want to line up some statements One person said, all definitions and beliefs, structure are a feeling of reality. You want to say it in German? It was the English group. Oh, it was the English group. Okay, so tell me in English. One person said when thoughts come up, for example, I'm not good enough, then she feels a painful reality And when this comes up in sasen, it's even enhanced, and she's stuck in this.

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Yes. So, one person said, when thoughts arise like, I'm not good enough, then she feels a painful reality, which is reinforced when it comes in sasen, and then she can also get stuck in it. to have the feeling I am a body instead of I have a body can lead to reality. A new reality, a different reality. A different reality. It's also helpful to feel into breath and posture rather as an antidote against the I-feeling. And... To feel identity more in activity and functioning leads rather to reality than to feel like an entity.

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So the thoughts were to feel more as if I am a body, as if I have a body, as well as to feel more in breath and attitude Other statements are Questions like what is reality have their meaning in supporting further development in us and not so to get answers. Another statement was, all what I can say about reality is wrong.

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Maybe this was at the beginning. Or, to follow the precepts changes experience, it makes it clearer. Reality is a feeling of connectedness. Reality is to meet the person staying with the breath, with presence. Using gate phrases like already connected can change our reality. And another statement, there is nothing like reality.

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One person mentioned it is boring to talk about reality philosophically, but he was interested in hearing about the experiences of the other persons. phrases like practice is possible and I can do this are reality and compass points. So if the words like practice is possible and I can do this, are rarity and sort of compass orientation points. I myself tried for years to get answers about the big questions of reality, death and life and consciousness and so on, by studying sciences like physics and neurosciences or genetics.

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But this did not work. This comes to an end, and then it's... And then there is no... Then it stops, but you can find out. I'm now convinced that this way doesn't work, and that the only way is somehow to look inside, and, for example, picking sasen and so on. And now I tend more and more to see and feel as reality what I experience just in the moment where I am in. I have the feeling I'm closer to this when there is some background feeling or some kind of awareness in midst of my actions.

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Like the feeling of there's always one who isn't busy or so. I myself have been working for years on various scientific information from physics, neuroscience and genetics. These big questions that have been moving me for many years, about life and death and so on, to solve what cannot be achieved from basic thinking. And I believe that the inner transformation is the only way to experience something. And I think it's a great idea. And I actually have more and more the feeling that reality, that I am connected to reality when I look at my current experience. And I especially have this feeling when a certain sense of the background Thank you.

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Andreas? No excuses. You're supposed to translate now. In our group we spoke about how we experience reality. Oh, okay. How unusual. So someone said that for her reality looks very different depending from what center she looks at it That reminded Andreas that when he is involved in the Skanda practice things have a different feeling reality depending on from what Skanda point of view he looks at things.

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What we found out, everyone had the experience that when we are in certain involved states, for example, we are very angry or very sad and are involved there. Whenever we have the chance to go into an observant position, then the effect and also the view of the things of the so-called reality changes. So we all know that when we are in states which involve us like fear or anger, and we are able to get into an observing position on this situation or this feeling, then this reality changes. or even the consequences of the surreality changes. We talked about this in the group, but what was still in the background for me was, as Roshi said yesterday, about the carelessness of the senses.

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In the evening I talked to him about the fact that when we develop the ability or can stay longer with a sense, the sense develops or opens up, So what I wanted to add, it was too late in the group, but we spoke in the evening about it, that you mentioned that our senses, I need your word, got crumbled up, you know, they're not used. Oh, vestigial. Vestigial senses that you can actually concentrate on one of those vestigial senses and then they kind of reactivate and bloom again. And if that happens, the reality, also the sensoriality of this field changes. Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Andrea. Yes?

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We also spoke about dreaming. Is that also a reality? When we had a bad dream, we wake up and say, oh, thank God, it was just a dream. Good dream, it's exactly the opposite. For me the experience was when I had a ski accident and I don't dare to ski anymore. So she dreams that she really totally at ease can ski down the hills. And when I wake up, I have very clearly the feeling that I can do it.

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But you can do it, yeah. Probably you can, yeah. But I did never dare to go back on the skis. This is completely real when I wake up. Yeah, I understand. Thanks. We don't have a speaker in our group, so I talk for my own. We also found out that different persons have different realities. And first of all, I was not the only one in the group. I found out that I don't like the word reality, because in German it's something like facts, very absolute, very hard. And I don't think this is possible. So I like more the word Wirklichkeit. This is in German something working is to work on me, to influence me, to get interference, something like this.

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Different people have different realities and sometimes when they talk together about their realities, it's like the other, the one is talking Chinese and the other Russian. And also in one person the reality can change. For instance, when somebody does a psychotherapy and he gets some whiteness more, so his reality can change completely. And also the reality has something to do with the senses. But I think there are more than five senses you use. I was thinking about when I take this pencil, I take it for real, and if I put it there, just my thinking makes it still real. But with my senses it's not there.

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It's also when I'm completely lost in thoughts, then it feels like also losing reality. But shouldn't you say some of this in German before in Deutsch? Well, she can't. At the end? Yeah. All right. It's better at the end? Yeah. And when you're lost in thoughts? Just in case. Then I have the feeling I lose reality. And this is also what you say about people who always dream. You say they lost reality. And the other thing I found out that the reality even depends on which sense you use. For instance, when I sit and I have the feeling my body isn't there anymore. I have the really strong feeling it seems to be reality.

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When I open my eyes, it's still there. The question is, what is reality in this case? Well, the question is, what is the body? I mean, you can ask what is reality, but you can also ask maybe the body has dimensions that aren't visible. Okay. It does, in fact. So I thought it's something really floating. Yeah. That too, maybe. Okay? Do ich bitte? In our group you don't have a speaker and that's why I spoke for myself. We also found out in the group that different people have different realities. I and someone else have also noticed that the word reality, somehow I don't even like it in German, because it is something very absolute.

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I prefer the word reality, which contains this effect, something that affects you, with which you get in contact and do something with yourself. and these different aspects, that is, when people have different realities and talk about them, it is sometimes as if one speaks Chinese and the other Russian, and that the reality of a single person can change over the course of life, for example, when one does psychotherapy and can relate a lot more to certain parts of personality, the reality can totally change, and also from moment to moment, and that it somehow has to do with the five senses, although I have the feeling that there are simply even more senses than these five, The pencil.

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Don't forget the pencil. It's underneath it. I remembered it too. Okay, thank you. I can respond what you said to the last bit. Yeah. What were you going to say? That's it. What did you say in English?

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I said that you responded when she said what reality it is that you said. What is the body or that the body perhaps and does have different dimension that usually one doesn't get. That's all. Oh, okay. Thanks. Someone else? Yeah. I want to add something. I feel quite free and liberated since I accepted that there is no objective reality. But it just makes everything more mysterious. But there must be some kind of connecting structures because otherwise it would not be possible that you can support us and help us in our development.

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Why is that? I mean, what does my practicing with you have to do that there must be, how do you draw that conclusion? Your experience, Roshi's experience can only help us something or benefit us. If there are similar experiences for us, expectable. Okay. Okay, someone else? Yes. In our group we also talked about how much our reality is shaped by conditioning and our culture and so forth, and how very difficult it is for me to understand that or get hold of maybe a tiny bit of, say, one point of conditioning, and to actually see that

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and then see it in many, many concrete situations. And only if we manage to do that, then we may get to the point that in that one particular situation we are not stuck in just react in the very same behavioral pattern, but stop that and decide to respond in a different way. But that is somehow very, very difficult. But also, if one can start with a small bit, because one can see how it changes. Everything, basically. The relationship with, say, a sibling or whatever constituted the conditioning in the first place. Deutsch, bitte. Among other things, we talked in our group about how much our, how we grew up conditioned us.

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Of course, also our culture and so on. But concretely, it is very, very difficult to see that our behavior in concrete situations, how much it is influenced by such conditioning or Yes, we say conditioning. And if you manage to see it, and not only in general, but concretely, how such a thing is in a certain situation, that it is also there in this situation, Thank you.

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