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Pathway to Collective Zen Insight
Seminar_Minds_of-Zazen
In the June 2009 seminar "Minds of Zazen," the discussion explores the concept of practice evolving into a definitive path, where individual elements coalesce to reveal deeper understandings. The text also considers the idea of engaging the Zen community in a reflective Sangha discussion to mark the beginning of a seminar weekend, encouraging shared inquiry into how the practices from previous seminars have evolved over the year. Additionally, there is contemplation of the transition of practice responsibility to the Sangha in future years, with the possibility of reducing individual teaching roles.
Referenced Works and Concepts:
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Zazen Practice: The discussion centers on how Zazen evolves from individual endeavors into an established path, suggesting a transformative process of internalization and collective understanding over time.
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Sangha Discussions: A proposal to initiate future seminars with community discussions to facilitate collective reflection on the evolution of practice, emphasizing the Sangha's role in continued learning.
AI Suggested Title: Pathway to Collective Zen Insight
Of course I'm interested in everything. But since I'm only capable of this location, I have to be satisfied. But I do hope tomorrow you can say something to me about if you do feel the transition of practice into a path. I mean, we can say that everything is a path. And that's also true. But there also is a point at which a path coalesces.
[01:01]
Not testing. Coalesces is to come together, glue together. There's a point at which a practice coalesces into a path. And then everything that happens reveals the past. Yeah, something like that. Okay. And... Just a question, you know, I really did enjoy last evening. And I talked to Atmar last night. And Atmar said, I called you a couple of times earlier. I thought you'd be in your room.
[02:04]
And I said, why did you think that? He said, because I listened to last year's tapes. And in those tapes you were quite surprised when Christina said you had to give a lecture Saturday night, Friday night. So I assume this Friday night you weren't giving a talk. I said, no, they're squeezing me like a lemon. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. But I liked what happened last night. So I'd like you to have some sort of thought among yourselves If we did start the seminar next year, if we have one next year, Friday evening, I wonder if it would work to start with a sangha discussion.
[03:17]
dann frage ich mich, ob das nicht funktionieren würde, mit einer Sangha-Diskussion zu beginnen. We'd still start with the Friday pre-post day. Wir würden immer noch mit dem Freitag vor- oder nachtag beginnen. But then in the first evening, when everybody supposedly is there, is here, we could have a Sangha discussion. What do you remember from last year? Or has any of the practices from last seminar coalesced during the year? I don't... Maybe it's a crazy idea. But I want to spend the next 30 years turning practice over to the Sangha.
[04:35]
I was testing her optimism. Yeah, she thinks I'm going to be gone. The other day I was, you know, I'm becoming bionic, right? I have now a bionic eye. And I have now, as of recently, two implanted teeth. I don't know. It took six years for the dentist to convince me to do it. And it cost about a year's income. And they're made of titanium and gold and ceramic on the outside. And while I was lying there, I said to him, do they melt?
[05:48]
He said, who? You understand what I mean? I don't say, I just assumed the position and everything, so... But maybe they, he said, no, they last a lifetime. I said, 30 years? But I would like to, you know, at this stage of life, turn the practice over to the Sangha more and more. I think you're totally ready to do it. Just do it. If you're willing.
[06:50]
So, let's see how... you know, let's decide sometime in the next, I don't know, weeks or days or something, whether we do a Sangha discussion as the beginning of the Friday night next year. And of course I would want to participate as a listener.
[07:26]
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