You are currently logged-out. You can log-in or create an account to see more talks, save favorites, and more.
Harmonizing Tradition and Personal Practice
AI Suggested Keywords:
Sesshin
The talk focuses on the complex dynamics of teacher-student relationships in Buddhism, highlighting the importance and challenges of integrating a teacher into one’s practice. It discusses the role of lineage and community (Sangha) as pivotal components of the Buddhist path, alongside Buddha and Dharma. The speaker delves into the transmission of Buddhism to the West, addressing the rationalization of Buddhism to fit Western paradigms and emphasizes the necessity of daily practice beyond textual teachings. Additionally, the discussion touches on the concept of "one-pointedness" in meditation and the intricacies of concentration, advocating for a harmonious blend of discipline and trust in oneself on the path.
Referenced Works and Concepts:
-
The Three Treasures: Buddha, Dharma, Sangha
These are traditionally seen as the foundation of Buddhist practice, with Sangha emphasized as essential to integrating Buddhism into personal and societal contexts. -
The Four Foundations of Mindfulness
Typically translated as mindfulness of the body, feelings, mind, and phenomena, the speaker suggests that the translations often miss the experiential depth, advocating for 'feelingfulness of feelings.' -
The Five Skandhas and Six Paramitas
Frameworks within Buddhism: the Skandhas relate to the components of individual experience, while the Paramitas or perfections are qualities to be cultivated for enlightenment. -
Transcultural Transmission of Buddhism
Analysis of how Buddhism has been adapted in Western contexts, often shaped by missionary and rationalist influences, and the challenges of maintaining its core experiential teachings. -
Concentration and Meditation Practices
Discussion on different types of concentration, including those associated with meditation (samadhi) and non-dual awareness, highlighting the subtlety needed in practice. -
One-Pointedness (Einspitzigkeit) in Meditation
Explored as the focused concentration required in meditation, with nuances in translation affecting understanding, stressing context over literal translation.
The talk examines the need for both deep personal engagement and communal practice to realize the Buddhist path fully, underscoring the critical balance between independent practice and guidance.
AI Suggested Title: Harmonizing Tradition and Personal Practice
Redone - Incorrect record time
I want to go in a slightly different direction than I've been speaking. Partly because I talked yesterday about students and teachers and so forth. And it's something I feel a need to talk about at the same time I don't talk about it very often or very clearly. Because I've decided to mostly let you guys figure that out. And we... customarily assume that at the basis of all discussion, the structural process is egocentric.
[01:12]
We could discuss that for a while, but I won't. Wir könnten das für eine Wahl diskutieren, aber ich möchte nicht. Aber diese Annahme macht natürlich Gespräche zwischen Lehrer und Schülern mehr komplizierter, wenn ich dabei der Lehrer bin. But I don't particularly care whether you have me as a teacher or some other teacher, or whether you have several teachers. Though I do think you need a home-based practice and home-based teaching and teaching. Now a teacher in Buddhism is extremely important, but we don't have any models for the relationship.
[02:17]
And it doesn't mean, as some of you think, that if you have a teacher, you're not doing it alone. The nature of practice is that you do it completely alone and with a teacher. It doesn't stop you after you're alone. It's not doing it alone instead of doing it with a teacher.
[03:20]
You've got to practice as if you were completely on your own. And then also, if possible, you have the companion of a teacher. In Tibetan Buddhism, the teacher is considered so important, it becomes the four treasures instead of the three treasures. Instead of it being the three treasures of Buddha, Dharma and Sangha, it's Buddha, Dharma, Sangha and teacher. And the teacher is not a guru in the Indian sense or like Bhagavan Rajneesh. So I have orange underwear on. I have orange underwear on. And a teacher is not a parent or a spouse.
[04:48]
And it's not a parent in the sense that it's somebody you eventually have to break from. And it's very specifically related to the teaching, not to all aspects of your life. So the question of how to make your past include another person is the question. An effort to make it include another person, even if the other person is less smart and younger than you, is really important in this. That's all I'll say about that.
[06:09]
Now, Buddhism has usually, and I'm going to try to give some general definitions of Buddhism here. Buddhism has of course been shaped for us through the texts chosen to translate, the commentaries, analysis, and the translations themselves. And the first influence of Buddhism in the West came through missionaries. Catholic and Protestant. And they influenced the initial descriptions of Buddhism in the West. And the next level probably of influence is those people who wanted to make Buddhism rational and scientific. That Buddhism is ultimately logical and reasonable.
[07:34]
And the same emphasis tries to make Jesus Christ into an ordinary guy who happens to be good or something. Now, Buddhism is highly logical and highly pragmatic. But it's not verifiable. It's not verifiable. Mm-hmm. You can't prove it's true. It's realizable, but not verifiable.
[08:40]
And it's not verifiable in our ordinary sense, our ordinary common sense. Because it's not based on common sense reality. Based on a reality realized through a sense common to all the senses in a high state of concentration. So many of the sense of Buddhism is being verifiable and logical and rational and so forth in all its aspects. Also comes from Asian teachers who are influenced by the West and try to make Buddhism clear to the West.
[09:49]
And then the categories in which we look at Buddhism, the most common being that it's somehow transcendental or transcendent. And then it somehow deals with a centralized and universalized truth. And those are categories we apply to Western religions, don't really apply to American. Now I'm trying to give you a sense of what you're getting involved in. Buddhism is foremost a path, a way. Buddhism can't be passed from one culture to the next by missionaries. You can't really bring teaching to one person or few people can't bring the teaching to some Polynesian island and convert the population.
[11:32]
Buddhism has passed through numbers of people living in a Buddhist way which begins to influence society. Now, the mainly Buddhist people teaching, Buddhist realities have been discovered through the daily life practices of lay people and monks. And you can't derive those practices, figure out those practices, from reading the teachings.
[12:37]
You can read Buddhism as much as you want, teaching of Buddhism, the Four Noble Truths and stuff, and you wouldn't think up a sashin. Nor would you think of orioki practice as a way to eat your lunch. So one thing I'm trying to do in sashins here and in the seminars is bring the details of Buddhist life together with the teachings. That's about as much as I can do. If you're going to continue your practice, you need to bring Buddhist way of life into your life. And into the lives of others.
[13:49]
And find ways to practice with each other. That's why it's really important for groups of you to decide, like this happened in Berlin and the Vienna gang and others of you, to find ways to practice together. It's only in discovering how you're going to practice in your daily life and with others that Buddhism will actually take hold in you and in the society. So that's why Sangha, Sangha, the community of practitioners, is equal in the path with Dharma and Buddha. So the path exists and Buddha means you do it completely alone.
[15:06]
Sangha means you do it completely with others. And dharma means you do it both. You have to know how to do it And we can include doing it with a teacher. Or in Zen, the emphasis on lineage, we chanted the names of the lineage this morning. So really the overriding religious concept in Buddhism is the path. And the path also means other people. And the path is also understood to be the way Buddhism is most clearly a religion.
[16:08]
A teaching for all people. because the emphasis on it being daily life living, your actual experience, means that from an ordinary busy person and an adept siddha, have to find ways their teaching comes into their ordinary life and anyone can participate in it. So on the one hand you have the idea of realized Buddhahood or Buddha mind balanced with the pervasive presence of Buddha mind in everybody.
[17:09]
Expressed in the full moon and the crescent moon. In the crescent moon which you can see the fullness of the moon and the full moon which includes the crescent. I guess we could say the path is your own life informed by consensual reality. And your own meditation practice informed by Buddha's teachings.
[18:29]
and bringing your own life and consensual reality together with your meditation practice and Buddha's teaching is the path. Now when you bring that together in a realizable, visible life that you have, And makes it possible for other people. Is that clear? Now I should in some ways probably be speaking to you about basic breathing practices and so forth.
[19:52]
That's what many of you need. And much of what I'm talking about you can only get a taste of. Definitely more of a taste of sashimi than you can say in a seminar. But also, the background of the basic practices is necessary to understand, I think, in order to do these basic practices realistically and fully. So let's talk about concentration a little bit. Again, I've been talking about one-pointedness. Now, Neil and a few other people have had discussions with Ulrike about one-pointedness and the translation of that.
[21:20]
I'm not sure you should have been having discussions about it. It's interesting. My impression is that you're Buddhists here and normal Europeans up at the house. With the few times I've gone up to the house and there's been quite a lot of talking going on up there. We're not doing so much down here. So maybe the emphasis on Buddhist life and the details of Buddhist life in Sashin, you need a little relief from. So this is a good place to practice. We can be Westerners up there and Buddhist down here. So maybe House of Stille was very smart, designed this way.
[22:22]
Now, I'm probably not as strict as I should be, and I should appear from under the rug shouting, hello. But anyway, please try not to talk so much. And when you're cooking in the kitchen, it's supposed to be limited to cooking. There's conversation essential to producing the food. but I think you define essential to producing good food a necessity to produce good humor. Okay, would you want to say something about the discussion about one-pointedness and so forth with the translation?
[24:03]
In German? In German. I'll just pretend I understand. Janine has used the translation for the first time. Today she has also used the translation for my neighbor to the right. The general translation in the German Buddhist literature for one-pointedness is einspitzigkeit. And I also looked it up in the dictionary. Pointed means also pointed. One-pointedness is einspitzigkeit. And I have read very little about Buddhism in German. In this respect, these traditional translations are almost impossible for me. And so I try to translate more from the context. And that often doesn't cover the usual terms. And I did that with Niel. I think we talked briefly with Harald.
[25:12]
Harald then also said, maybe you could say, Eingerichtetheit. And I said it again, these people, Eingerichtetheit. Eingerichtetheit. I then tried again, as far as possible, to translate this translation back into English to speak about Roshi, which we should now use. That is of course then again difficult. And he means in any case that it does not have much to do with spitz. Yes, like a arrow that you shoot off or something. Instead, it was more about bringing the energy, the concentration, to one point, to condense it to one point, so that you could extend it on the other side as well. So, once the priest said, maybe one should say one pointedness, one bluntedness, so one stupfigkeit. One stupf. One stupf.
[26:12]
Yes, and according to my understanding, this term really moves between uniqueness, something that you bring to the core and ultimately extends to a field again. And that's how such a tension, such a pulse is created. And to find that in one German word is quite difficult. That's why we decided to change the English vocabulary. Okay, we might cover the territory. Well, what we do at Crestone, trying to do at Crestone sometimes, is the group meets without me every other time.
[27:34]
And part of the attempt in this meeting without me is to see if there's a common understanding of the language of Buddhism. And that's something you can really do together. And each other's misunderstandings help you sharpen your own understanding. And so this kind of discussion is important and valuable. For example, to give an example of the importance of getting these things straight, is the four foundations of mindfulness. You're usually translated like mindfulness of feelings. And to capture the actual meaning of that, it really should be translated feelingfulness of feelings.
[28:59]
It doesn't mean to know your feelings through your mind. It means to know your feelings through your feelings. And to know your body through your body. Now, some of you are just coming to that point in your own practice now of knowing your body through your body or letting your body talk to you. But when it's translated, mindfulness of the body, mindfulness of the feelings, etc., you just don't get it. If your practice becomes sensitive and into the details, you don't quite get it. it doesn't, the four foundations of mindfulness don't make sense. They're not foundations of anything. Now, Ulrike has heard me say this many times, and she's translated it many times.
[30:14]
And didn't you say in this recent lecture in Hamburg that you got a feeling for it that was, after all the times you translated, you got a feeling? And what was said that made you get a feeling for it? You can say it in German. Yes, as I said, I have translated it many times and I had an intuitive feeling, but not really an understanding of it. And when Roger spoke about it again in Hamburg, he drew the five skandhas into this description and suddenly said, Yes, this feelingfulness of feelings simply means that you can only recognize your feelings from the second skanda. So they suddenly laughed at me. And then I understood it better. You want to remind me in English? I think it relates to the first, what I said. Yeah, you said, knowing your feelings not through mindfulness, but through the feelings. Yeah. So that made you get it. Yeah. And a feelingfulness of feelings was kind of intuitively, I understood, but not completely clear.
[31:38]
But that means understanding the feelings through the feelings. Okay, now, maybe this is too much detail for you. You see, the problem with Western Buddhism has been, in my humble opinion, is if we draw a square. And we put on this square, we put world... world views and the unconscious. Okay, and in these two points of the square we put primary psychological and personal processes and secondary psychological and personal processes. Now, I'm not going to try to develop this picture.
[32:45]
I'll just keep it simple. And then we put out here, and you're still with me here, these two points, worldviews and unconsciousness or unconscious processes. We put another point out here which we call meditation. Now that meditation practices affects your worldviews and affects your unconsciousness. Okay, and we could make it more clear and say that the pasana part of concentration affects your worldviews and the shamatha part of concentration affects your unconsciousness.
[33:47]
This meditation emphasis of Western Zen Buddhism does not affect much your primary or secondary psychological process. That is most affected by the development of an understanding and keeping in view of the five skandhas. And the six paramitas, the six perfections. And other things, the four immeasurables. Friendliness, generosity, etc. Okay.
[34:57]
I'm not going to try to teach those things now. I've done it enough of the skandhas and the paramitas. But this side of Buddhism, particularly in the West, is necessary if we're going to have a balanced development of practice. Because practice is not just about enlightenment, it's also about your personality and the way you perceive. Okay. I would say that to practice Buddhism, there's four qualities of the past that are necessary. One is the ability to feel shame. And I would distinguish shame from guilt in saying that shame aims at the future and guilt aims at the past.
[36:00]
And I don't know how these words work in German or English, shame and guilt, but in Buddhism what I mean is that... You can say that next. Is that shame means... Oh, I don't like that I did that. I'm going to do something about it. I'm going to act or be in the future so this won't happen. And in a more subtle sense, I'm going to actually redo this karma at deep levels. Now, it doesn't mean, oh, I did that, I'm a bad person, and I'm stuck with this badness.
[37:20]
So the first is the ability to feel shame. The second is the ability to feel compassion. In other words, to recognize that you can feel what others feel and you don't try to protect yourself from feeling. You don't try to deny that feeling. Compassion also means the ability to suffer with others while also feeling joy. It doesn't mean others suffering brings you down. If it brings you down, you can't completely see it.
[38:32]
So you're able to completely feel it and not stray from joy. That's not easy. You know, it's dimmed too strongly, and that is the problem here. And the energy to face.
[39:32]
And fourth, the ability to feel at home wherever you are. The ability to feel at ease. So I'm back to the definition of one-pointedness. And the value in your own practice, in your own end together, of getting these things pretty straight. I think that while one-directedness is included in one-pointedness and vice versa,
[41:14]
One-pointedness is actually a better definition, more useful, to have one-pointedness include one-directedness rather than the other way. Because of the particularity of one-pointedness is one aspect of the whole range of practice. Okay, and one practice samadhi is also understood as on each occurrence samadhi arises. with each situation, with each moment. When samadhi arises, it doesn't mean you just use one practice to reach samadhi.
[42:41]
Okay. And the last thing I'll mention is a little something about concentration in general. The idea of concentration is almost as important as the idea of past in Buddhism. But what we mean by concentration is difficult to describe. And that's why I'm emphasizing why it's so difficult to understand uncorrected state of mind. Uncorrected state of mind often feels like, for many people, the lack of concentration.
[43:41]
And let me just say there are different kinds of concentration. Okay, there's concentration where you see things in detail, in great detail. there's concentration that you can sustain. There's concentration that's more connected with what I call soft mind, which allows you to see gates that you didn't see before. In other words, a gate could be considered like Ulrike seeing, knowing your feelings through your feelings, what that actually means.
[45:01]
You hear the words, but you don't see the gate. So there are many cakes that come up for us in practice. And sometimes we don't see them. Sometimes we see them. And don't realize that seeing them is sometimes going through them. And sometimes we're afraid to go through them because we don't want to leave our friends behind. Even though we find them on the other side. Then there's gates in which you can sustain transitions.
[46:02]
There's concentration in which you can sustain transitions. Then most important is concentration without a reference. Concentration that that concentration usually is a concentration on something. We could call sometimes concentration, which doesn't need a reference, doesn't need to be concentrated on anything, is called non-concentration. You can't discover non-concentration or concentration without a reference through concentrating on something. So you have to negotiate this funny territory of uncorrected state of mind. Now there's also concentration that is also detached.
[47:23]
And this is the concentration of the first jhana. And it's often described as like the way a box and a lid fit together. The lid completely fits the box but it's separate from the box. And this means concentration that touches everything. Concentration which subject and object disappear. Concentration in which you feel touched by everything and at home in everything.
[48:33]
Now these more formless forms of concentration can't be learned exactly through effort. They have to be discovered through a soft, subtle state of mind. In which you are disciplined but not too interfered with. So I'm trying to give you that atmosphere in the sesshin where there's some discipline but you're not too interfered. I want you to learn how to do the sesshin And learn the path aspects of this way of life.
[49:36]
And at the same time, I want you to profoundly leave yourself alone. To profoundly trust yourself as you yourself are the path. I think it's a deep trust that most of us never touch or even know about. But I think you can do it. I know it is a path that is accessible to us. And I think we are helping each other. So now tomorrow, tomorrow is the last day, right? Tomorrow is the last day.
[50:48]
Sashin has been long enough after tomorrow. But you know, my deep desire to continue practicing with you, So of course I can't completely finish tomorrow. But I'll do my best to make sense of what we've talked about so far. And what I've heard you talking to me about. With the Rika's help you'll get through. Thank you very much.
[51:56]
@Transcribed_UNK
@Text_v005
@Score_72.22