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Embodied Awareness Beyond Thought
This talk explores the distinction between "pure being" and "usual being" through Zen practice, focusing on the linguistic and perceptual challenges in articulating these states. It discusses the notion of experiencing the world as continuously appearing and delves into the idea of composure as a form of being detached yet not separate, using cultural concepts such as the Japanese 'ma' and 'hara' to illustrate the integration of body and perception. The discussion also emphasizes experiencing impermanence and engaging in a non-thinking, embodied awareness that transcends linguistic constraints.
Referenced Works and Concepts:
- Impermanence and Appearance: Central tenets of Zen philosophy, where the world is experienced as continuously appearing rather than permanently existing.
- 'Ma' and 'Hara' (Japanese concepts): 'Ma' denotes the space or field around objects, while 'hara' refers to intuitive, gut-level perception, illustrating cultural approaches to embodied awareness outside of traditional cognition.
- Field Perception: A practice of shifting perception from focused objects to the whole, enhancing non-thinking awareness.
- Ivan Illich's Adaptation: An example of hearing through bones illustrating sensory perception beyond conventional means.
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...city, sister village in France. And she just was, I guess, a little surprised to find a Buddhist center in the middle of this little village. So she's bringing back a report, perhaps, to her. And Iris, our kindergarten teacher. Well, I used the example of the other day, Iris, of sitting with all of you in the midst of the local dialect around the fire. Now, again, I use the example of Sophia composing herself.
[01:23]
We discussed what compose is maybe in German. This doesn't sound right. Right. Okay, good, I like all this. Because it makes so clear that what we're talking about doesn't exactly fit English or German. So we have to, you know, of course, you find a territory of experience through practice that doesn't fit into your language. I'm already going to have a problem with the being who came out of the forest and each of us as human beings.
[02:45]
Sorry, I already had a problem? I will have a problem with the being who comes out of the forest. and just a human being. Now, how are we going to make the distinction? When the person comes out of the forest, we maybe have some feeling of, maybe we could say, pure being. It's the man you meet in the forest when you're lost. We're meeting the human being, you said. We're meeting pure being or a true being. Mm-hmm. And not just a human being.
[03:59]
How do we distinguish between pure being and our usual sense of being? So we could say being thus or thus being or something like that. I haven't found what phrase I want to use. Yeah, neither does it exist in German. Thus, you can't say thus being? So sein. So sein or sein so. I like so sein better than English. Dieses so sein gefällt mir besser als das Englische. So sein. I don't know what it means, but it sounds good. So sein. Also ich weiß nicht, was es bedeutet, aber es klingt gut. So sein, oh my God. Can't she so zine?
[05:03]
What? Can't she so zine? Oh, yeah, can't she so zine? I don't know. Can't you understand? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Can't she so zine? Can't she so zine? It can just be like that if you make it sound a little bit different. Yeah. So again, let's go back to Sophia composing herself. One of the many things I have people saying to me who practice, who start to practice, who practice for a while, It's that I'm too open. It makes me vulnerable to practice. I don't have the usual way of separating myself. And I think you do need some way to seal yourself.
[06:15]
But not armor yourself. And I think this sense that I saw in Sophia of composing herself is something like sealing yourself. I mean, and it's close also to this word I've used the other day, which is translated as detached. that I mentioned the other day. But it really means detached, yet not separate from. And this is something also like sealed.
[07:31]
Now here I'm trying to speak to the craft or process of another way of perceiving. Things appear. Things appear. Okay. Now, if you have the sense of the world as a container, or or permanent, implicitly permanent. We're too smart to think it's explicitly permanent, but we're not so evolved that we don't find it implicitly permanent. We're not... We're not so... We don't have practiced so much.
[08:49]
So our cultures always, our habits, our personal habits are always making the world seem implicitly permanent. Okay. So you have a choice between feeling the world is permanent or the world as appearing. If you really have the sense of implicit impermanence, then you don't have a sense of the world as appearing. Wenn du einen Sinn oder ein Gefühl hast, für das die Welt implizit permanent ist, dann hast du nicht das Gefühl, dass sie auftaucht. And that's one choice you can make. And appearance is something like, you know, simply you can practice it, practice the feeling by closing your eyes and opening them.
[09:50]
Also etwas Auftauchendes, dafür könnt ihr das Gefühl bekommen, ganz einfach, oder es üben, indem ihr die Augen zu und auf macht. If I close my eyes and open them, you appear. I close them again and you appear. It's slightly different each time. If I just keep my eyes open, it doesn't seem like there's any change. If I close my eyes and then turn here and then open them, it's quite different. It's not clear what connection there is between this and this. So if you experience everything, not just know that everything changes, but you experience everything as changing, then you don't have this implicit sense of permanence.
[11:08]
Things always seem to be appearing even when you have your eyes open. And the idea of dharma is rooted in the idea that everything is continuously appearing. Okay, so at the center of the idea of dharma, dharma as a practice, Is this sense of actually experiencing the world as appearing, not just knowing it changes, but experiencing it as appearing? Okay, so you have that choice. then you also have a choice of how it appears.
[12:19]
It's not just, you know, if you don't have a choice about how it appears, then again you just have a sense of there-ness and implicit permanence. So, again, going back to this sense of being sealed or composing yourself, or feeling composed, or feeling yourself in your breath and in your body. And you know, they often say, and they've done studies which show that shy children are children who have usually too much input. They don't seal themselves. So they're put into a situation with a bunch of kids, and they...
[13:27]
They get too much all at once, so they act shy because they get too much input all at once. And if I had a child like that, I would try to teach them to compose themselves quickly in each situation. If you can find this place where you're detached yet not separate from. There's an urgent request. lösen kann, aber dennoch nicht getrennt sein von ist. Yes. Also sammeln, this is an example for this composed.
[14:41]
Sammeln oder wie man sich sammeln kann oder versammeln kann. It was a vocabulary suggestion. Okay. Danke. All right, thanks. And I mean, I think those of you who, perhaps, Katrin, in your work, or those of you who are doctors, you have to be with people all the time, and somehow you have to be detached, yet not separate. You can't lose yourself in the suffering or difficulties of the people around you, and yet you can't be separate from them. So this ability to feel a certain composure in the midst of situations is part of the act of perceiving the world in the way I'm speaking about. I spoke about seeing things, knowing things as a field.
[15:51]
And I think you can practice with it. And you'll see that it requires a non-thinking. I mean, you can try it. I mean, one of my common examples is you try it with a tree. You look at particular leaves or the branches or whatever. And then you shift to the whole of the tree all at once. When you're looking at the leaf, say, at the same time, in the background, you're feeling the whole tree. Okay, so I'm suggesting you bring the background, what's in the background, to the foreground. So you feel the tree.
[17:30]
Now in my own experience when I feel the field I actually feel it in the bones of my cheeks. So this supports your feeling there's more than five or six senses. One of the senses, I think, clearly is your bones. Now, I'm told if you have a hearing aid, you can actually attach that hearing aid to the bone somewhere. It doesn't have to be in the ear. Is that true?
[18:33]
That's the cochlear implant that Nathan has. Yeah. Yeah, Nathan, yeah. That's what the little boy from Berlin has. Yeah. And Ivan Illich... Ivan Illich, who died a while ago, he told me that because of this cancer he didn't treat, it hung off his face like a grapefruit. It destroyed his hearing. Doctors said he didn't have hearing. But he learned to hear through his bones. So he heard pretty well. Okay. But in any case, in our chanting, certainly in the services, you know, the chanting works well when we chant with our bones.
[19:38]
You can feel it moving around. But in any case, whatever about all that, when I feel a field perception, I tend to feel it in my bones, particularly in my cheekbones. So I can move from... seeing something in particular, I just move to this feeling and the field perception appears. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it seems funny to say these things, but is this the way it is? But you do when you have that feeling.
[20:47]
Like, say that I feel this, which I do. And I'm walking around the building. I'm not really looking much, but actually I've got a little antenna here. And it's something like that. But I feel my whole body walking around the building. It's not my senses walking around the building. Okay. Now let's go back to the tree. You see the particular of the tree, then you see the field of the tree.
[21:50]
And not just the field of the tree, but you can The space the tree occupies as well. Actually, in yogic culture of Japan, they have a word for this. It's called ma. Ma is to know the field of something. So there would be a sense that in this room there's a ma quality dimension, aspect, that you can know. And this ma quality is also part of the idea of hara, to know through your hara, your gut. Ma is a quality of power?
[22:59]
Ma is related to also the feeling of knowing through your gut and not through your thinking or usual perception. And there's actually, believe it or not, a business term, haragai, which means to participate in a business meeting with your hara and not with your thinking. Es gibt sogar einen Wirtschaftsausdruck, Haragai auf Japanisch, und das heißt, dass man in einer Besprechung, you're in a meeting with this Harafile, dass man in einer Besprechung mit diesem Haragefühl sitzt oder teilnimmt. And I'm mentioning this only to say that in a culture like Japan, rooted in yogic Buddhist tradition, there's different words than we have for how we experience things.
[24:03]
Okay, so how did we get here? You're not interested in Japan, particularly, probably? I hope not. I don't want you all to go to Japan. Stay here, please. And though I speak positively about Japan, don't worry, Japan has lots of things that aren't so positive. So stay here. But we got here because we wondered If in all of our situations our state of mind is what's most influential at work or home or with people, etc., we get to this point by noticing that whatever our situation, our state of mind
[25:17]
is perhaps the most influential thing. And then we noticed that it's the identity of mind with thinking that That makes it hard for us to participate in mind, except through thinking. to see the spirit, unless we think it.
[26:25]
So, maybe say it again a little bit.
[26:28]
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