So we only have half an hour. Or the rest of the year, but probably half an hour. Does somebody have something you want to say? Well, I'd like to approach this during the seminar. How memory dwells, can dwell in the present. Wie Erinnerung in der Gegenwart verweilen oder wohnen kann.

[01:18]

Well, that's also a way of, how does karma or dharma dwell in the present? Also, wie... We have dwell just as live. Okay, live. Okay. Also, wie das dharma in der Gegenwart... How does our experience live in the present? How do we open up the present to our experience? Or how do we so know our experience that it dwells in the present? Yo, what am I saying here? Yeah, partly I don't know. I'm just trying some words out.

[02:26]

Trying some questions out. In order to, you know, just to, you know, yeah, just to, yeah, continue this process of questioning. Because if we're going to ask what is reality, we certainly also have to ask how does our experience live in the present. And this is also part of my interests, questions, since pretty clearly from Munchen last year and somewhat before that. What is the territory of the self in the West?

[03:31]

Now, I think we have a conflated sense of self. Conflated, you know? Many ideas of self are reduced into one idea. Inflated or conflated? It doesn't make it less, it makes it just more. It usually makes it less. It's reductive. And the soul, unfortunately, Judith is not here, but we could say, let's define the soul. As that which continues and that which suffers because it continues. Now, you know, I I don't ever remember living in the European Middle Ages.

[05:05]

Oh, I don't know what it was like. But my guess is when you have a sense of soul as well as self or spirit or, you know, Perhaps you experience the world in more ways. Maybe like some recording on different tracks. You can feel one in any moment different tracks in your own experience are being laid down, so to speak. So I think probably one of the things I'll try to speak about speak with you about?

[06:22]

What is the territory of self? And not only what is self as an idea or entity, But in our experience at any one moment, what part of our experience would we call self? This also would be part of versions of asking, what is reality? You know, I have a Macintosh computer. When I was a kid, families were divided in America, whether you were a Ford family or a Chevrolet family.

[07:27]

General Motors or Ford. And if you were... If you start out with a Chevrolet, if you get rich, you'd have a Cadillac. But if you start out with a Ford, if you get rich, you'd have a Lincoln Continental. What ends of the Ford? Lincoln Continental. With a big wheel in the back. And never did you cross that boundary because Chevrolet people were, you know. And now the world is divided into PC and Mac. Some people are both, you know. And so I know about iTunes and the iPod.

[08:36]

But I don't really know about it. It's just this mystery that the magazines are always talking about iTunes. Also, ich kenne mich eigentlich nicht aus. Ich weiß nur über dieses geheimnisvolle Ding, über das diese Zeitschriften sprechen, iTunes. And I don't really understand it. Und ich verstehe es eigentlich nicht. When I've never downloaded a song, I barely know how to get on the net. Also, ich habe noch nie so ein Lied heruntergeladen. Ich schaffe es gerade mal, mich ans Netz anzuschließen. And I'm a little afraid if songs started appearing in my computer. Und es macht mir fast Angst, dass irgendwelche Lieder in meinem Computer auftauchen. What would I do with them? I'll probably break through this glass wall at some point. But it seems to me it must be some different way of conceptualizing music. It seems like, and I don't know if this is true, but it seems like, and it doesn't matter to me whether it's true or not.

[10:12]

It seems like but it may not be true. Because whether it's true or not, I still am trying to say something. But it seems to me that this being able to download individual songs, maybe it's like smoking. Because if you smoke, you can very carefully dose yourself with nicotine. I think smoking is a very, you can get exactly the dose you want. That's a wrong notion for smoking, isn't it? So you can, you know, So maybe you dose yourself with song.

[11:23]

Because you can get exactly the particular song. You don't have to have the whole album. You just want a particular song. And the little I've heard, you know, read about it, it's all about you can... Think of a song, a phrase that went through your mind once from a song. You may not know who sang it or but you can find that one song and download it to your computer. Now I watch people walking around and they have Hi. They're in some other world. They're in perhaps the world of a particular song they heard once in 1993. And then the next song can be some other moment of emotion they're recapturing.

[12:39]

And I don't know, but it looks like some people are almost inseparable from a continual flow of songs. I see young people walking to school or walking around and they seem to always have these things in their ears. What are they doing to their emotions? Or what? What? Yeah. I mean, there must be new songs sometimes, the glance of a new love.

[13:43]

But there has to be old songs too that for some reason stay with you. So it seems to me that you're dosing yourself with particular songs, particular voices, most of the day. When do you have time to feel anything? Oh, when do you have time when you're not feeling something that's related to a particular song? And I say, I really don't know what I'm talking about.

[14:49]

I don't even know anybody who does this all the time. I just see it. But if you're always listening to songs and you can always choose exactly the song you want, because you've got your little iPod, which goes with your iTunes, And I saw in a Mac magazine the other day somebody saying, why would you spend $200 for a mini iPod which can only hold 1,000 songs or something? Yeah. When for $50 more you can have 50,000 songs. Unbelievable number of songs. Für 1000 Lieder, die man da drauf speichern kann, wenn man doch 50 Dollar mehr ausgeben würde und man 50.000 Lieder speichern könnte.

[15:56]

Who can keep track of that many songs? Wer kann denn überhaupt Kontrolle bewahren über so viele? Can you imagine knowing a thousand different songs? Oh, I want this particular one right now. Könnt ihr euch denn vorstellen, dass man genau 1000 Lieder weiß und sich dann genau das eine spezifische auswählt? I mean, just to play a thousand songs, it must take years, or I don't know, at least a week or two. I need to have a conference with a group of young people to have them explain this to me. But how does memory dwell in our immediate experience? I see this window and the pine tree. What if I'm always seeing that through a song? Anyway, it seems to me it's another example of Steven Jobs' kind of genius or sense of the pulse of things.

[17:17]

It's kind of a third industry he started. It looks like he's completely changing the way people buy songs and listen to songs. And I am asking myself, you know, what does this have to do with how we bring memory into our experience. And do we want memory in our experience? Or is it perhaps that we can feel emotions more powerfully in a song than we can in our life.

[18:21]

So sometimes movies certainly allow us to feel emotions that we don't feel in our ordinary circumstances. And I think we want to, we need to feel, feel the world. I mean, I think like Joseph perhaps suggested, We might choose a way of living that always gave us a deep sense of emotion. We didn't have to go to movies to bring ourselves into these deep emotions.

[19:33]

But movies are wonderful that they do that. Yeah, but also it's not so safe in a movie. I mean, the people next to you don't really notice that you're weeping. But can we weep in our ordinary life? How can we be in the world weeping without it being too visible? Or can we choose to live in the world in a way that is rooted in the simple, the extraordinary joy of simply being alive?

[20:52]

And is there a difference between weeping in this world and the continuous joy of simply being alive? Of needing nothing else but being alive? Maybe we can sit for a few minutes and then we can end. Kobo Daishi, I think it was Kobo Daishi.

[23:28]

He had a little poem. Seeing with the ears, hearing with the eyes, the rain drops from the eaves. What's a little oom like that's about? Hearing, seeing, seeing with the ears. Hearing with the eyes. The rain. Yeah, what else does it do? The rain drops from the eaves. What is this world contained in the ears and eyes?

[24:32]

Not limited to the ears and eyes. and yet still raindrops from the eaves.

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