I like to bother you with the predictable. But I'm too interested, so I have to ask something about your discussion last night. Yes. We spoke about that our reality is much determined by our speaking or speech. It's necessary. You mean by language or speaking? Language, yeah. It's important because otherwise we couldn't compare our reality with another reality. So you cannot compare it to another person.

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Without being able to speak about it. That's not entirely true, I think, but mostly true. When we meet something that doesn't fit into this reality, we are afraid. So that gives us security, this limited reality. So it gives us security, this limited reality. We asked ourselves the question, are there different kinds of reality, or do we only look at one reality differently?

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We asked ourselves, are there different realities or do we look at one reality in different manners always? But on this we couldn't find any answer. Then I told something about myself that my reality was much shaped by stress Then I realized that I was walking around And then I recognize that I'm running around with a list in my head what I have to fulfill. You're not the only one. Now this is a little bit better.

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Okay. Yeah. I was in Paul's group, and I just want to line up some statements. One person said, both definitions and beliefs, structure are a feeling of reality. You want to say it in German? It was the English group. Oh, it was the English group. Yes, that's right. Okay, so tell me in English. One person said when thoughts come up, for example, I'm not good enough, then she feels a painful reality. and when this comes up in sasen it's even enhanced and she's stuck in this.

[04:24]

Yes. So when a person has said, when such thoughts arise, like I'm not good enough, then she feels a painful reality that is reinforced when it comes in sasen, and then she can also get stuck in it. To have the feeling I am a body instead of I have a body can lead to reality. A new reality. A different reality. A different reality. It's also helpful to feel into breath and posture rather as an antidote against the I-feeling. And... To feel identity more in activity and functioning leads rather to reality than to feel like an entity.

[05:28]

So the thoughts were to feel more, I am a body as I have a body, so to feel more in breath and attitude to let an I-thinking arise, but also to identify with activity and function more than to feel as an entity leads to a feeling of reality. Other statements are Questions like what is reality have their meaning in supporting further development in us and not so to get answers.

[06:29]

Another statement was, all what I can say about reality is wrong. Maybe this was at the beginning. Or, to follow the precepts changes experience, it makes it clearer. Reality is a feeling of connectedness. Reality is to meet the person staying with the breath, with presence. Using gate phrases like already connected can change our reality.

[07:46]

And another statement, there is nothing like reality. It's überhaupt nicht so etwas wie Realität. One person mentioned, it is boring to talk about reality philosophically, but he was interested in hearing about the experiences of the other persons. Das war für eine Person sehr fad, wenn philosophisch gesprochen wurde, It is also more interesting when other people have brought their experiences. Phrases like, practice is possible, and I can do this, are reality and compass points. So words like, practice is possible, and I can do this, are reality and sort of compass-oriented points of view.

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I myself tried for years to get answers about the big questions of reality, death and life and consciousness and so on, by studying sciences like physics and neurosciences or genetics. But this didn't work. This comes to a niche and then it's... and then there is no... then it stops, but you can find out. I'm now convinced that this way doesn't work and that the only way is somehow to look inside and, for example, picking sasins. And now I tend more and more to see and feel as reality what I experience, just in the moment where I'm in.

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And I have the feeling I'm closer to this when there is some background feeling or some kind of awareness in midst of my actions. Like the feeling of there's always one who isn't busy or so. I myself have been working for years on various scientific information from physics, neuroscience, genetics, these big questions that have been moving me for many years, about life and death and so on, to solve what is not enough from a fundamental consideration and cannot be achieved. and I think that the inner transformation is the only way to experience something, and for that I think it's a very good idea. And I actually have more and more the feeling that reality, that I am connected to reality when I look at my current experience.

[11:39]

And I especially have this feeling when a certain sense of background Okay, thank you. Andreas? No excuses. You're supposed to translate now. In our group we spoke about how we experience reality. Oh, okay. How unusual. So someone said that her reality looks very different depending from what center she looks at it.

[12:42]

I find it very similar to when I deal with the skandhas, that a thing has a different reality on me, a reality of feeling for me, when I make ideas from different skandhas. that reminded Andreas that when he is involved in the Skanda practice, things have a different feeling, reality, depending on from what Skanda point of view he looks at things. And another point from the practice was that we found that everyone had the experience that when we are in certain involved conditions, for example, we are very angry or very sad and are involved there, Whenever we have the chance to go into an observant position, the effect and also the view of things can change the so-called reality. So we all know that when we are in states which involve us like fear or anger, and we are able to get into an observing position on this situation or this feeling, then this reality changes.

[14:21]

or even the consequences of these reality changes. We talked a lot about this in the group, but what was not enough for me at the time, but what was still a background for me was, as Roshi said yesterday, about the carelessness of the senses. In the evening I had a conversation with him about the fact that if we develop the ability or if we can stay with a sense for longer, the sense develops or opens up, so what i wanted to add it was too late in the group but we spoke in the evening about it that um you mentioned that our senses i need your word got crumbled up you know they're not used Oh, vestigial. Vestigial senses, that you can actually concentrate on one of those vestigial senses and then they kind of reactivate and bloom again.

[15:24]

And if that happens, the reality, also the sense reality of this field changes. Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Andrea. Yes? We also spoke about dreaming. Is that also a reality? When we had a bad dream, we wake up and say, oh, thank God, it was just a dream. When we have a good dream, it's exactly the opposite. For me the experience was when I had a ski accident and I don't dare to ski anymore. So she dreams that she really totally at ease can ski down the hills.

[16:36]

And when I wake up I have very clearly the feeling that I can do it. That you can do it, yeah. Probably you can, yeah. But I did never dare to go back on the skis. This is completely real when I wake up. Yeah, I understand. Thanks. We don't have a speaker in our group, so I talk for my own. We also found out that different persons have different realities. And first of all, I was not the only one in the group. I found out that I don't like the word reality, because in German it's something like facts, very absolute, very hard. And I don't think this is possible. So I like more the word wirklichkeit. This is in German something working is to work on me, to influence me, to get interference, something like this.

[17:47]

Different people have different realities and sometimes when they talk together about their realities, it's like the other, the one is talking Chinese and the other Russian. And also in one person the reality can change. For instance, when somebody does a psychotherapy and he gets some whiteness more, so his reality can change completely. And also the reality has something to do with the senses. But I think there are more than five senses you use. I was thinking about when I take this pencil, I take it for real, and if I put it there, just my thinking makes it still real. But with my senses, it's not there.

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It's also when I completely lost in thoughts, then it feels like also losing reality. But shouldn't you say some of this in German before in Deutsch? She can't. At the end? Yeah. All right. It's better at the end? Yeah. Okay. And when you're lost in thoughts? Just in case. Then I have the feeling I lose reality. And this is also what you say about people who always dream. You say they lost reality. And the other thing I found out that the reality even depends on which sense you use. For instance, when I sit and I have the feeling my body isn't there anymore. I have the really strong feeling it seems to be reality.

[20:02]

When I open my eyes, it's still there. The question is, what is reality in this case? Well, the question is, what is the body? I mean, you can ask what is reality, but you can also ask maybe the body has dimensions that aren't visible. Okay. It does, in fact. So I thought it's something really floating. Yeah. That too, maybe. Okay? Do ich bitte? In our group we don't have a speaker and that's why I spoke for myself. We also found out in the group that different people have different realities. I and someone else have also noticed that the word reality, which I don't even like in German, because it's something very absolute.

[21:05]

I prefer the word reality, which contains this effect, something that affects you, with which you get in contact and do something with yourself. and these different aspects, that is, when people have different realities and talk about them, it is sometimes as if one would speak Chinese and the other Russian, and that the reality of a single person can change over the course of life, for example when you do psychotherapy and you can relate certain parts of personality much more well, the reality can totally change, and also from moment to moment, and that it somehow has to do with the five senses, although I have the feeling that there are simply even more senses than these five, The pencil.

[22:08]

Don't forget the pencil. It's underneath it. I remember it, too. Yes, it was out of reality. And that's what it has to do with the senses. For example, if I look at this pencil, then it is somehow real, and if I put it away now, then it is actually only real through my thinking, because I somehow know. Okay, thank you. I can respond what you said to the last bit. Yeah. What were you going to say? That's it. What did you say in English?

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I said that you responded when she said what reality it is that you said. What is the body or that the body perhaps and does have different dimension that usually one doesn't get. That's all. Oh, okay. Thanks. Someone else? Yeah. I want to add something. I feel quite free and liberated since I accepted that there is no objective reality. But it just makes everything more mysterious. But there must be some kind of connecting structures because otherwise it would not be possible that you can support us and help us in our development.

[24:42]

Why is that? I mean, what does my practicing with you have to do that there must be... How do you draw that conclusion? Roshi's experience can only help us something or benefit us If there are similar experiences for us, expectable. Okay. Okay, someone else? Yes. In our group we also talked about how much our reality is shaped by conditioning and our culture and so forth, and how very difficult it is for me to understand that or get hold of maybe a tiny bit of, say, one point of conditioning, and to actually see that

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and then see it in many, many concrete situations. And only if we manage to do that, that we may get to the point that in that one particular situation we are not stuck in just react in the very same behavioral pattern, but stop that and decide to respond in a different way. But that is somehow very, very difficult. But also, if one can start with a small bit, because one can see how it changes I would say basically the relationship with say a sibling or whatever constituted the conditioning in the first place. Deutsch, bitte. Among other things, we talked in our group about how much our, how we grew up, conditioned us.

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Of course, also our culture and so on. But concretely, it is very, very difficult to see at all, that our behavior in concrete situations, how much it influences, through such conditioning. But if you manage to see it, not only in general, but concretely, how such a thing is present in a certain situation, that it is also present in this situation, Thank you.

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