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Beyond Preference: The Zen Journey
Seminar
The talk explores the practice of Zen sitting, emphasizing the need to detach from personal preferences and establish a consistent routine regardless of individual inclination. It further discusses the teacher-student dynamic in Zen, underscoring its profound nature beyond traditional Western interpretations. The discussion also highlights the existence of small Zen practice groups in European cities, which facilitate continued practice and understanding through a communal setting, and raises the cultural significance of lay initiation ceremonies.
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Zen Sitting Practice: The talk illustrates the Zen tradition of sitting outside the realm of personal preference, reflecting the notion that true practice entails adhering to routine irrespective of one’s immediate desires.
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Teacher-Student Relationship in Zen: The discussion delves into the complex relationship between teacher and student within Zen practice, portraying it as a mutual journey where both learn and develop from the interaction, which diverges from typical Western familial or spousal relationships.
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Zen Practice Groups: Mention of small Zen groups across European cities, such as Berlin, serves to reinforce the theme of communal practice, allowing practitioners to maintain consistency and shared experience outside traditional monastic environments.
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Lay Initiation Ceremonies: The practice of giving Zen precepts as a lay initiation, described as having transformative power, is noted as an important cultural tradition, symbolizing a significant step in one’s spiritual journey.
AI Suggested Title: Beyond Preference: The Zen Journey
That's 34th man. Second is that you don't control your sitting by what you need personally. You're trying to sit outside the realm of preference. Even if your preference is for practice, you don't want to sit in the realm of preference. Oh, this weekend I don't feel like sitting. But this weekend I feel like sitting 24 hours without moving. And when you feel like sitting for 24 hours without moving, you feel closer to being in Buddha.
[01:00]
That's not our understanding. That's just your personality trying. Trying to decide when you should sit. In order to get sitting outside of your preferences and your personality. Because Buddha is waiting outside your personality. And what we mean by Buddha, Buddha is right here. Just both each of you not letting him in. So, the... The tradition is, in Zen, to sit whether you feel like it or not for 30 or 40 minutes, and that's done.
[02:19]
Yeah. Of course. I sit two periods or three periods. It's fine. Or you... It's a particularly difficult time in your life, and you want to sit a little more, that's fine. These aren't hard, fast words. These aren't hard, fast words. Hard means you can't move it. Fast means fast is something. It was difficult, basically. But the general key is that you just find a basic way to practice, and you just do it.
[03:24]
I can wash your face in a moment. The third reason, right? It occurred to me. Okay, I would like us to move on. My goodness. I'd like us to take a break. It's 11.20. uh so let's take a break to uh say quarter to uh 12 that right nothing cares
[04:30]
And if your legs are hurting, back at your feet. You ask your body, the inside, find some opening at each Yes, sir. And you hear everything in the side.
[06:01]
Without a catchment. You hear everything inside, as if the sound was your own body. Yet you hear without that. And the Spirit of God is there. everything becomes a kind of music heard from a window wait
[07:26]
Also, I'm not sick deep. Let's just do it. Something. Something so deep or mysterious. Not just a... Something.
[09:36]
Feel it. Feel it. Feel it. It hurts in your ankle. What stays between your mind and your sensation? Where do you rest? Where do you find this thought? Let it spread throughout you.
[10:50]
I think you really care about me. The world is a matter of touching, but missing out is the way to mind. They are two very big things.
[12:11]
They have to be broken. X. Up. Up here. in this world.
[13:26]
It's a problem. Problem. Please sit down.
[15:39]
Sit comfortably. Good morning. You feel stronger at sitting, so it's nice to be able to sit a little more with you.
[16:52]
Now, several people have asked me about about how to continue sitting, how we could practice together more. Occasionally someone asks me how They could be my student or I could be their teacher. Which in some ways is a way of saying, how do we continue to practice together? And also sometimes as a way of intuitively understanding this relationship that's impossible between two people.
[18:22]
Which doesn't have to do with personality. But we don't have much experience in the West of this teacher-disciple relationship. And for us it's easily confused with parental relationships or spousal relationships. But in Buddhist cultures, this relationship is so basic. But even if you're 80, And there's nobody to be your teacher, you have a teacher who's 30.
[19:40]
More kind of relationship than easily understood in terms of one person teaching the other. In the most developed sense, it means teacher and student produce the teaching together by the different roles they take. So if a student helps by bringing what he or she needs to the teacher, the student teaches the teacher how to teach. And the teacher helps the student recognize his or her own deep nature.
[20:55]
And some of you I've already accepted as students. Although I haven't told you. And some of you have already accepted me as a teacher, although you haven't told me. Sometimes comes that dangerous, exciting, and difficult moment where we dare to admit it. Okay. Now, as I said, some people have asked me how to continue practicing together, or can you sit somewhere and win? And several people, I find out, have intuitively asked Neil.
[22:22]
I don't know why they picked Neil, but maybe because he's short here, Kent. But in any way, in Berlin, there's a small city group that meets once a week on Sunday. Then I think if you're a reasonably nice person, they'd let you join. I think anyone can sit. You're not nice. We accept you. And I'm meeting, I think, with this group Wednesday evening. This is a way for me actually to understand better how to teach here in Europe. There are small city groups like this in several cities.
[23:54]
And I often have a feeling. I carry a feeling with me when I'm in the United States of these small group cities. And some, like this group is sitting Sunday, sometimes I think, oh, Sunday, now they're sitting in Berlin. Then I think, oh, no, that was eight hours ago. They were just sitting there. And then I try to remember in the middle of the night. Then I try to remember in the middle of the night. So I don't know, you'll have to help me what to do here in Berlin. Now I've then given the precepts as a sort of lay initiation into practice.
[25:00]
to a number of Europeans when they were in the United States. I think it will be a big step, actually, when I give to a lay initiation ceremony somewhere in Europe. It's traditionally considered that when you give precepts, it's a very magical moment. And it's said that petals fall from the sky. The earth trembles. It may be true. Do you understand really how everything is changed?
[26:18]
So anyway, when I'm here, I'm here. And when I'm not here, I wonder why I'm not here. When I'm here, I'm mostly either in a bar or a guest room or a hotel or a car. Maybe sometime I can find one physical continuity here and there. That might be easier for me to find some continuity of practicing. But the more I feel and you tell me that you are practicing regularly, you started practicing a certain time, that helps me practice.
[27:35]
Because I really want to practice. I find it fun to even find out what your names are. So we have another half hour or so. No, 20 minutes or 15 minutes. Before we take it. I think yesterday going to lunch and the length of time it took to serve, get waited on even, takes two hours. So I would like right now to at least hear from a few of you by giving the stick to you.
[29:12]
It's very hot. Say something to us. They were German. They were German. They were German. I was surprised. [...] But that's not so important. What I'm somewhat surprised about Bekiroshi, I'm somewhere in a different imaginative expectation of Zen Master, right?
[30:18]
I read most of you, but inside Zen Master, this expectation happens. I'm quite surprised at how nice the ship is. I gave the stick to the right person. Yeah, I'm a sort of Zen softie. But sometimes in Sesshin people don't think so. Pass it maybe down the frontier. You don't have to talk about me here, you know. Whatever. Who is our God?
[31:34]
Who is our salvation? Who is our salvation? Who is our salvation? I used to play teacher and played on a computer. So introducing myself to the teacher, I realized I made quite a few mistakes, like sitting too long. I was forced to be pendent. Yeah.
[32:48]
One of the qualities of passing the stick around is I don't comment on what people say. If you say something that's like a question, I'll try to remember it. And we're speaking with everyone, as well as Ulrike and myself. And speaking to yourself. We were in a group, and we [...] were in a group,
[34:12]
So it's great that we can have that part of it. But yeah, I don't know what to say about it, but it's great that we have to extend it a little bit. So it's great that we can have that part of it. So it's great that we can have that part of it. There are no books really right now that will be disordered, but in the area, myself, they are holding that up. Yeah. my own language. And then I think I've seen my mother talk to her and she didn't get translated. The voice is always quite difficult. That's the direction also that I've been in.
[35:29]
I just don't accept it. I can't. It's the same stuff I used to struggle with.
[36:41]
And it's my second time that I've been to the abortion seminar, and like beforehand, I have all these questions and comments, and I want to ask them so much. And then when I actually meet, it's like they have benefits. Yeah, it's like everything has disappeared. And that seems to be put me in there, and well, I know it is, and I start to look back at home, and all the questions reappear. By the way, also with this tradition of passing the stick, you don't have to say anything.
[41:13]
You can just hold it, look at it, pass it on. I prefer you to say something. As I said, I'd like to hear your voice. of the Great War. In World War I, the people of the United States, [...] This morning?
[42:53]
Or yet? My question is, how is it that you can understand all these things? Okay. So, do you want me to make any points on this? Please, I'd like to start with you, Ian, for me. I think that I really, really like that you're making a big difference, and I think that we have to be able I'm sorry. I don't know if you can hear me. I'm sorry. [...]
[43:55]
I'm sorry. I'm scared. How can you expect me to feel like I don't want to work there? What does that mean to you? What does that mean to you? What does that mean to me? What does that mean to you? What does that mean to me? [...] What Not physically, but physically. So we had to shoot it that day. And I thought, what do I do? Although I didn't realize it, I thought, well, I'm ready to wait.
[44:56]
And after a while, or after a few years, I thought to myself, and after three, four hours, And I thought it should be something for people to actually get into life. But it's still, like, it's a regular thing that we do. But I'm thinking, yeah, that's all over. I don't want to back it up any time. It's still, you know, it doesn't hurt anymore because I don't, you know, He didn't have any other stuff.
[46:44]
He had nothing to do with it. He had nothing at all to do with it. That's how it is. [...] Bye. And the staff reminds me of a walking stick, like a thought walking stick. And it also reminds me of a door opening. I know that the staff can teach. And whoever has a hand, it's like it opens the picture. Therefore, I feel very good being here.
[47:50]
And I think the first gift that we pose is the thinking of the answers. You don't know. They're all doing the same thing, but it's a different thing. And the evolution we saw here, how we went, I thought maybe we should look at anything that's normal. We've seen it. We've seen it, actually. The consciousness, they are all inside of the divine. They are like a bit of one, and a bit of one. That's it.
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